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mitch mcconnell and his buddies worked on saturday. wow, wow, that's fantastic. >> it really -- it's touching, isn't it? just a little working weekend. a nice long christmas break. the house disappeared for the holidays after boehner's plan "b" failed. where is the sense of urgency? everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or months, but years. and the fact that they're trying to cobble together some kind of patch to avoid the political pain and the economic pain more importantly to the country that's set to kick in tomorrow night at midnight is, frankly, pathetic, and it's a political problem, but it's an economic problem, and it's entirely self-created. when marshall blackburn was talking earlier and trying to blame the senate, look at the mirror. don't block at the other guy radio right now. you have to own this, and if particularly in the house of representatives because it's the rep
mitch mcconnell and his buddies worked on saturday. wow, wow, that's fantastic. >> it really -- it's touching, isn't it? just a little working weekend. a nice long christmas break. the house disappeared for the holidays after boehner's plan "b" failed. where is the sense of urgency? everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or...
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mitch mcconnell reached out to him. he really appears, by all accounts, helped to move the needle forwar. he has more than 30 years service as a u.s. senator. the 23 of those were spent serving alongside mitch mckonl. they have a good-working relationship. a strong-working relationship. the vice president knows how the inner workings of the senate work here in d.c. he is certainly someone who has been useful over the course of the past 24 hours. president obama, for his part, has been placing phone calls, as well. he has launched this two-pronged approach behind the scenes and launching this very public cam paraphernal campaign. democrats, you heard him come out today and sail this is not a perfect plan. it doesn't do everything we wablted. as you know, he ran on that campaign of increasing taxes on those who make $250,000 or more. the deal that is coming to fruition is those making more than $450,000. and there's some other compromises. so the president really taking a two-pronged approach here as these negotiations co
mitch mcconnell reached out to him. he really appears, by all accounts, helped to move the needle forwar. he has more than 30 years service as a u.s. senator. the 23 of those were spent serving alongside mitch mckonl. they have a good-working relationship. a strong-working relationship. the vice president knows how the inner workings of the senate work here in d.c. he is certainly someone who has been useful over the course of the past 24 hours. president obama, for his part, has been placing...
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i should point out i mentioned that don stewart, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell's spokesperson was talking to reporter there we saw a moment ago in the gaggle of reporters, he said we're waiting to see if the vice president can sell this to his party. stewart says biden and mcconnell will meet while they are up on capitol hill as you look live at ohio clock the area where senators and spokes people go. the senate republicans have not signed off on the deal. it is protocol. when asked how long until a vote, don stewart said "awhile everything always takes longer in the senate." and it does, ed. but we could be seeing a vote, you know, sometime past 11:00. it really doesn't matter as far as the clock goes before midnight east coast time because despite the fact that is the fiscal cliff deadline as we noted the house adjourned until tomorrow and essentially the u.s. is technically going over the cliff even though lawmakers can adjust and beat things back if they decide to pass whatever comes out of congress before wednesday. >> right. and the irs can sign -- give instructions to c
i should point out i mentioned that don stewart, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell's spokesperson was talking to reporter there we saw a moment ago in the gaggle of reporters, he said we're waiting to see if the vice president can sell this to his party. stewart says biden and mcconnell will meet while they are up on capitol hill as you look live at ohio clock the area where senators and spokes people go. the senate republicans have not signed off on the deal. it is protocol. when asked...
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i know mitch mcconnell very well, known him for a long time. i didn't think there was any way he would put his neck out for this deal unless he was absolutely confident that the republicans in the house would have ratified it. i think the fact that they're not indicates to me that this house republican conference is so ideologically driven that they would basically scorch the earth in defense of their own ideology, and the american people are the ones that are going to suffer, seniors, throughout the spectrum of the economy. businesses large and small if we let this thing go over the cliff and don't repair it very quickly. i think everybody on our side of the aisle is baffled that this deal which again passed 89-8 in the senate last night could not -- they couldn't even bring 40 or 50 republican votes to the floor of the house tonight because we would have passed it with those votes. >> there were some republicans that luke russert had heard from, one member. he said they were absolutely incredulous that some of the things that were being said
i know mitch mcconnell very well, known him for a long time. i didn't think there was any way he would put his neck out for this deal unless he was absolutely confident that the republicans in the house would have ratified it. i think the fact that they're not indicates to me that this house republican conference is so ideologically driven that they would basically scorch the earth in defense of their own ideology, and the american people are the ones that are going to suffer, seniors,...
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vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. working behind the scenes as they have successfully done in the past. the senate went home last night and they are going to get in this morning at the bright hour of 11:00 a.m. eastern. i don't understand how that works. we are not seeing any evidence of progress in either chamber, but as i said, mcconnell and biden are talking. that's important. these two guys have a long history together, and have an ability to cut a deal. one major stumbling block has been overcome. republicans have dropped their demand to reduce social security, cost of living increases. you will know that as the chain cpi. >> and the public has taken their demand for social security benefits off the table. the truth is they never should have been on the table to begin with. significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> the consequences of this are too hot for the american people to be engaged, in a political messaging campaign. i'm interested in getting a result here. >> we followed th
vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. working behind the scenes as they have successfully done in the past. the senate went home last night and they are going to get in this morning at the bright hour of 11:00 a.m. eastern. i don't understand how that works. we are not seeing any evidence of progress in either chamber, but as i said, mcconnell and biden are talking. that's important. these two guys have a long history together, and have an ability to cut a deal....
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and of course he has about 23 years of just working with mitch mcconnell. so the two men have a good working relationship, and some have said that vice president biden has been the good cop to harry reid's bad cop. 10 he has really helped to move things along. but right now things are merging behind the scenes. talks are continuing. again, the vice president, if he feels is needed will head over to the hill. milissa? >> do you see the same blame game going on as was happening yesterday with all the fingers pointing back and forth at each other saying it's your fault, no, it's yours? and do you any that we'll be hearing more from the president tonight? >> well, of course, it's always an open question if we'll be hearing more from the president. there is no word yet if we will actually be hearing from him tonight. it is getting quite late. so i think that the chance is diminished by the hour. but the president did point some fingers today. he had some sharp words for republicans in congress. essentially saying that they couldn't get a big deal done because no
and of course he has about 23 years of just working with mitch mcconnell. so the two men have a good working relationship, and some have said that vice president biden has been the good cop to harry reid's bad cop. 10 he has really helped to move things along. but right now things are merging behind the scenes. talks are continuing. again, the vice president, if he feels is needed will head over to the hill. milissa? >> do you see the same blame game going on as was happening yesterday...
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also mitch mcconnell doesn't want his fingerprints on this because he doesn't want to be primaried. so you have these sort of -- shall we say, the lack of courage or ziesh to move on this from mcconnell and boehner, it's directly tied to prospects to serve in current jobs. it's a fascinating subplot. >> i want to pick up on that on something jared was starting to say. some degree we're playing a bit of a game of semantics here. because there's some calculation that the republicans say we go over the cliff and then technically we can be seen as not voting to increase taxes, but we can be seen as voting for cutting taxes once the sort of -- we go over the cliff and we're on the other side of it. am i right about that? >> yeah. it's a very cynical ploy. the idea of the tax automatically reset for everybody. they can say i didn't vote for that. they all go up. and then they can vote to lower taxes for the $250,000 and below households. that's 98% of households. that's a -- that's something like a -- you know, a multi -- that's something like 400, $500 billion of tax cuts over ten years.
also mitch mcconnell doesn't want his fingerprints on this because he doesn't want to be primaried. so you have these sort of -- shall we say, the lack of courage or ziesh to move on this from mcconnell and boehner, it's directly tied to prospects to serve in current jobs. it's a fascinating subplot. >> i want to pick up on that on something jared was starting to say. some degree we're playing a bit of a game of semantics here. because there's some calculation that the republicans say we...
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. >> that, of course, was senator mitch mcconnell and here we have the majority leader in the senate, harry reid. let's listen in for a second. >> the house has reported by the press and we all know, one of the plans didn't have a name, it wasn't plan b. i don't know which plan it was because they've had a number over there. but this plan was to show the american people that the $250,000 ceiling on raising taxes wouldn't pass in the house. why didn't they have that vote? because it would have passed. they wanted to kill it. the speaker wanted to show everybody that it wouldn't pass the house. but he couldn't bring it up for vote because it wouldn't pass. republicans -- a myriad of republicans think it's the fair thing to do and of course every democrat would vote for that. the republican leader finds himself frustrated that the president has called on him to help address the fiscal cliff. he's upset because, quote, the phone never rang. he complains that i have not passed the resolution to pass the fiscal cliff but he's in error. we all know that in july of this year we passed in the
. >> that, of course, was senator mitch mcconnell and here we have the majority leader in the senate, harry reid. let's listen in for a second. >> the house has reported by the press and we all know, one of the plans didn't have a name, it wasn't plan b. i don't know which plan it was because they've had a number over there. but this plan was to show the american people that the $250,000 ceiling on raising taxes wouldn't pass in the house. why didn't they have that vote? because it...
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i think the key player is mitch mcconnell to watch. we're getting potentially more information about what is happening next. our capitol hill producer deidre walsh was there when some of the leaders returned and she spoke with nancy pelosi who said this meeting was constructive and candid. here's what is especially interesting. nancy pelosi told reporters that the president led a meeting that ended with senators reid and mcconnell trying to work something out between the two of them. now it seems like we've gone from a process that was president obama and speaker boehner and then today to five leaders back to two. and those two, for the moment, seem to be senator reid and senator mccon until. also, i had a source in senator mcconnell's office who said we should be getting a statement from the republican leader of the senate any time now. so that statement will tell us a lot, candy. >> it will. but we also know that even though it's in the senate hands now which is basically where speaker boehner tossed it when he couldn't get his plan
i think the key player is mitch mcconnell to watch. we're getting potentially more information about what is happening next. our capitol hill producer deidre walsh was there when some of the leaders returned and she spoke with nancy pelosi who said this meeting was constructive and candid. here's what is especially interesting. nancy pelosi told reporters that the president led a meeting that ended with senators reid and mcconnell trying to work something out between the two of them. now it...
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so harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy please elosi on the house to say here are the number of democrats i could get if you offer a compromise package. but this is really a tough situation because there's so little time left and we've already seen the markets impacted by this. so if we do go over the cliff, if you look at the polls, most americans saying republicans will bear the brunt. they will blame republicans, but the bottom line is the president will get a lot of blame as well because this is going to impact a lot of people. >> right. nbc's kristin welker keeping us honest at the white house. we will stand by. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. >>> joining us for analysis are two of my favorite guys, both former chairs of the democratic committee, pk to you both. >> karen. >> thanks, karen. >> governor rendell, i'm going to start with you, what do you make of this meeting? to some degree -- do we really expect we're going to get some substance out of this meeting or is this more for the optics so both sides can say they tried one more time? >> i think it's a little more for the opt
so harry reid, mitch mcconnell, nancy please elosi on the house to say here are the number of democrats i could get if you offer a compromise package. but this is really a tough situation because there's so little time left and we've already seen the markets impacted by this. so if we do go over the cliff, if you look at the polls, most americans saying republicans will bear the brunt. they will blame republicans, but the bottom line is the president will get a lot of blame as well because this...
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it's deeply bipartisan worked out by mitch mcconnell and the white house. of course vice president biden was in there. >> do you support the bill? >> this is not new information. yes, i would support the bill. >> how many democrats would not support the bill? >> i don't have that count. i think it really -- i would hope and expect that this is a bipartisan bill. that's what the american people have been asking us to do is to find a way to protect the middle class in this country, to provide certainty for the markets and actually for all of us both consumers and investors and get it done. don't go over this cliff. take care of particularly the tax provisions in this legislation. we will have other opportunities to discuss and will be implementing either sequester an alternative. that's a trillion dollars in spending cuts we've committed to. the notion we haven't dealt with spending. we know we need some tax revenues. this is a compromise. >> we've got a minute left here, congress woman -- >> something we have to vote on. i'm saying. >> you want it to come to
it's deeply bipartisan worked out by mitch mcconnell and the white house. of course vice president biden was in there. >> do you support the bill? >> this is not new information. yes, i would support the bill. >> how many democrats would not support the bill? >> i don't have that count. i think it really -- i would hope and expect that this is a bipartisan bill. that's what the american people have been asking us to do is to find a way to protect the middle class in this...
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and negotiations with mitch mcconnell. so, sure, the president has been very involved. he, you know, he has led this campaign style effort to try to force republicans' hand. again, many of those folks are a little bit disappointed that that threshold was allowed to rise in these negotiations. but he did back republicans into a corner here to an extent that they're voting now on a tax hike that many thought they would never vote in favor of. >> i hate to look at the next fight before we conclude the one that we're in now, but since you mentioned the debt ceiling earlier and what we're facing in the next couple of months, what are we looking ahead to? what's the next struggle that we're going to see here? >> folks are familiar with the debt ceiling. the debt in this country is $16 trillion and growing. we hit that debt limb. the treasure secretary says they can move some things around and buy us a couple of more months which happens to be the same time that congress is going to have to once again decide how they're going to defer these a draconian spending cuts that was d
and negotiations with mitch mcconnell. so, sure, the president has been very involved. he, you know, he has led this campaign style effort to try to force republicans' hand. again, many of those folks are a little bit disappointed that that threshold was allowed to rise in these negotiations. but he did back republicans into a corner here to an extent that they're voting now on a tax hike that many thought they would never vote in favor of. >> i hate to look at the next fight before we...
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let's start with mitch mcconnell's republican leader. he's got a race in two years. he can see a primary from the conservative side. certainly joe biden comes out 06 this looking great. he came in sort of his superman of the underdog flying in at the last minute to save the day. the president, a mixed bag although he really played his hand to the maximum. a lot of people looked at this and thought he learned his lessons from previous perusing budget battles, health care battles, stimulus battles and republicans in congress and really had them in a corner, had them boxed in really well. however, some of his supporters, you already hear them expressing a great deal of dismay.
let's start with mitch mcconnell's republican leader. he's got a race in two years. he can see a primary from the conservative side. certainly joe biden comes out 06 this looking great. he came in sort of his superman of the underdog flying in at the last minute to save the day. the president, a mixed bag although he really played his hand to the maximum. a lot of people looked at this and thought he learned his lessons from previous perusing budget battles, health care battles, stimulus...
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there's no time set for this meeting tomorrow, but mitch mcconnell says he does expect to go. and so that really does speak to the next move, tomorrow. >> well, that is good news. that is good news, senator mcconnell going to the white house tomorrow, hopefully. but i'm going to ask you about the house of representatives, dana. right now they've been called back to washington, not until sunday, december 30th. now, 48 hours before the fiscal cliff goes over, is that really enough time to get legislation passed, if there's a real deal on the table? >> reporter: is it enough time? probably. if there's really something that is going to pass the senate, and this is a big if, as jessica said, the oddsmakers are definitely seeing the fiscal cliff happening, us going over the fiscal cliff, but if senate does pass something, that would be the next move, then the house could pretty easily take it up and pass it on sunday night or monday morning, on the actual day of december 31st. i think at this point, it's more of a question of optics, and democrats were definitely trying to take adva
there's no time set for this meeting tomorrow, but mitch mcconnell says he does expect to go. and so that really does speak to the next move, tomorrow. >> well, that is good news. that is good news, senator mcconnell going to the white house tomorrow, hopefully. but i'm going to ask you about the house of representatives, dana. right now they've been called back to washington, not until sunday, december 30th. now, 48 hours before the fiscal cliff goes over, is that really enough time to...
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mitch mcconnell says he wants to strike a deal. think about it, history states they've been the party of no. he said from the beginning if obama wants it, why are we going to do it? at the end of the day congress can sit around but these directly affect us. as students, think about the division tax breaks, things will go away and affect my family. within i look at congress, i see it's shifted to one side. i don't know. i feel like they need to step up and make a compromise. with obama it's like a mandate, with the taxing the wealthiest americans, if he's elected which by a landslide, maybe they need to catch up and form and modernize the party. >> reporter: how much does the political posturing, how is that to watch this churn day after day for the past several days? >> it's rough. i was watching yesterday when the president spoke, hoping maybe they had come to some point. hearing him say we're close but not there yet, it's like these are things that directly affect americans and if this is your job, this in is why we elect you, it
mitch mcconnell says he wants to strike a deal. think about it, history states they've been the party of no. he said from the beginning if obama wants it, why are we going to do it? at the end of the day congress can sit around but these directly affect us. as students, think about the division tax breaks, things will go away and affect my family. within i look at congress, i see it's shifted to one side. i don't know. i feel like they need to step up and make a compromise. with obama it's like...
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mcconnell to work out a deal and then present it to a house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, and i have asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle-class families don't go up, that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people, and that lays the groundwork then for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps we can take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the two senate leaders, they spoke shortly after the meeting and they sounded more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it's a very serious meeting and we took an extended period of time, as you all know, waiting for us. >> i would just add, i share the view of the majority leader. we had a good meeting at the white house. we're engaged in discu
mcconnell to work out a deal and then present it to a house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, and i have asked senator reid to do this, put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle-class families don't go up, that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people, and that lays the groundwork then for additional deficit...
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it's -- right now, as cnn's been reporting, it's up to mitch mcconnell and joe biden. those apparently are the two men where the entire negotiations have moved to. senator harry reid left the senate and told reporters tonight if you want to know if there's a deal, talk to biden and mcconnell. they have a history of reaching agreements, in the white house, biden is known as the mcconnell whisperer, and he got that reputation a couple years ago, when he was able to forge a budget agreement in 2010. maybe -- maybe there will be a breakthrough, but there are a lot of liberals and a lot of conservatives who will argue that no deal is better than a bad deal that's rushed through tomorrow at the last second. that's another dynamic to keep in mind. >> when you said they have a history of making deals together -- >> well, one -- >> on which issues do you think the two sides may end up compromising? >> well, the level at which taxes will rise above where they are right now, so obama's insistence has been, if you make over $250,000 a year, on the income over 250 you pay a little
it's -- right now, as cnn's been reporting, it's up to mitch mcconnell and joe biden. those apparently are the two men where the entire negotiations have moved to. senator harry reid left the senate and told reporters tonight if you want to know if there's a deal, talk to biden and mcconnell. they have a history of reaching agreements, in the white house, biden is known as the mcconnell whisperer, and he got that reputation a couple years ago, when he was able to forge a budget agreement in...
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we're told we should expect to hear from the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. the senate is in and he will likely take to the floor we're told and give a status report from his perspective. what we're talking about right now in the senate is whether or not the democrats if that i do attempt to pass something, if they're going to have to get to the 60-vote threshold, meaning if they're going to need to break a filibuster or if the senate rupp leader mitch mcconnell will be able to get agreement from his republican conference to have a sim palma jort vote. that's what they're talking about right now. it's important to emphasize that senator reid has told people privately if he does not think that any legislation like the one the president is sending up today can pass both the senate and the house he doesn't want to bring it up because he doesn't want to, a, make people walk the planch politically and, b, spook the markets even more with a failed vote. >> thank you. i want to bring in jessica here. the president landed two hours ago. what is he doing behind the sc
we're told we should expect to hear from the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. the senate is in and he will likely take to the floor we're told and give a status report from his perspective. what we're talking about right now in the senate is whether or not the democrats if that i do attempt to pass something, if they're going to have to get to the 60-vote threshold, meaning if they're going to need to break a filibuster or if the senate rupp leader mitch mcconnell will be able to get...
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senate minority leader mitch mcconnell arrived earlier today at the capital for talks. yesterday he and other leaders met the white house with the president and vice president aiming to avoid tax hikes and may vote on a deal as early as sunday. >>> police now have a woman in custody in connection with the death of a man pushed in front of a new york city subway train on thursday. detectives arrested a woman who they said said things that implicated hadder in the death sun and doe sen. this is the sketch of that suspect. >>> in india, the young woman gang raped on a new delhi bus is dead. doctors say she died peacefully at the hospital where she was being treated. employees plan to add murder charges against the six suspects already in custody and arrested on rape. the charges will be filed next thursday. angry protesters have been demanding justice and more protection for women and police expect more demonstrations in the days to come. >>> a large crowd cheers the first couple to get married under maine's new same-sex marriage law. stephen bridges and michael snell of p
senate minority leader mitch mcconnell arrived earlier today at the capital for talks. yesterday he and other leaders met the white house with the president and vice president aiming to avoid tax hikes and may vote on a deal as early as sunday. >>> police now have a woman in custody in connection with the death of a man pushed in front of a new york city subway train on thursday. detectives arrested a woman who they said said things that implicated hadder in the death sun and doe sen....
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. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us into, bring a balanced budget to the table to grow this economy for the long term not the short term. >> have a good night. >>> i'm don lemon, and this is cnn's top ten of 2012. this hour we look at the stories that captured our attention. what we see as the biggest stories of the year, around the world in crime, money, weather and even the biggest scandals. and later this hour, the big reveal of the most intriguing people of the year as chosen by you. we begin with the topic that dominated our coverage for much of the year. here's cnn's political correspondent candy crowley with the top phen political stories of 2012. >> p
. >> we will find out in the morning whether any progress came out of the senate leader mitch mcconnell's meeting with vice president joe biden. >>> we've been asking you, our viewers, to send in your thoughts, your messages to elected representatives. let's close tonight with some advice from one of you to washington. >> my message to all of washington for the new year is to set partisanship aside working on behalf of 100% of the voters, fix this mess you've gotten us...
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you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the table and then having a big knockdown, drag-down fight with the president in six weeks over the debt ceiling. under that scenario, that would tell me, okay, he's likely to want to make a deal. when you look at the actions that republicans threw out that idea of throwing in the social security change and suddenly democrats balked -- and he pulled it from the table. mitch mcconnell wants to make the deal, get the tax issue off the table simply because he thinks having more leverage -- if you leave taxes there, it gives the white house and democrats more leverage in the debt ceiling. even if they get a deal today we have a big fight in the next six weeks. >> if there is a deal today can it about get passed in time to avoid the fiscal cliff? >> i'm not optimistic that it can get through the house. i
you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is getting the tax issue off the table and then having a big knockdown, drag-down fight with the president in six weeks over the debt ceiling. under that scenario, that would tell me, okay, he's likely to want to make a deal....
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mcconnell, to lay out a deal. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders and the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for two million people. and that lays the ground work for deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> as for the leaders they sounded a bit more hopeful than the president. >> i think it was a very positive meeting. there was not a lot of hilarity in the meeting. everyone knows how important it is. it is a very serious meeting and it would take an extended period of time as you know, waiting for us. >> i share the view of the majority leader. we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference, and the majority le
mcconnell, to lay out a deal. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders and the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do this. put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up. that unemployment insurance is still available for two million people. and that lays the ground work for deficit reduction and economic growth steps that we can take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline....
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mcconnell try to put together something that would pass both of their caucuses, that republicans in the senate would vote for and that democrats in the senate would vote for. and then, of course, it would have to go to the house. now, the majority leader senator reid said he's readying a bill for a vote on monday to prevent a tax hike on incomes up to $250,000. senator reid said his bill will include all of the additional provisions that the president outlined that include long-term unemployment benefits, a continuation of those. that would be sort of the plan b for democrats simply because what they would rather do is get a bill with senator reid working in conjunction with senator mcconnell. senator reid said he's awaiting good faith proposals from the republicans. president obama said after the meeting that he is modestly optimistic a deal can be reached, but as you can hear from senator reid, the president asked that if a deal between republicans and democrats cannot be reached, then the president wants just an up or down vote on what he wants, which is quite simply no income ta
mcconnell try to put together something that would pass both of their caucuses, that republicans in the senate would vote for and that democrats in the senate would vote for. and then, of course, it would have to go to the house. now, the majority leader senator reid said he's readying a bill for a vote on monday to prevent a tax hike on incomes up to $250,000. senator reid said his bill will include all of the additional provisions that the president outlined that include long-term...
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mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will be able to discuss more details about a scaled-down fiscal cliff plan. and maybe that could lead to some sort of agreement ideally for all parties in which all the senators say that they will not filibuster it, and it can go to a vote. and then speaker boehner could, in theory, agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor after the house comes back on sunday. and then we would get all of this behind us before new year's eve. how likely does that sound? not so likely. >> you and i are both kind of laughing abo
mcconnell. that is happening this afternoon. jessica yellin is there. jess, what do we know about the president's plan to get everybody in the same room? do we think there's going to be something that comes out of this? >> reporter: well, this is one of those cases where we really are going to have to wait and see, and all the parties involved are also going in with a big question mark. the idea is the expectation by many of the participants in the meeting is that they hope that they will...
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mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other republicans note the president short-term fix raises some taxes, yet punt spending cuts until next year. >> i would vote for revenue, including the tax rate hike though i don't like them to get, to save the country from becoming greece. i'm not going to set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. >> if the president does return to washington this week, unclear whether he will come back here to hawaii for new year's with his family. joe lieberman says he expects the senate to be in session on new year's eve, working on a deal down to the wire. >> thank you, ed. markets dropped on shortened day of trading. dow fell 52. s&p 500 lost 3.5. nasdaq down 8.5. might be a blue christmas for retailers. shoppers came out in droves but spent l
mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other republicans note the president short-term fix raises some taxes, yet punt spending cuts until next year. >> i would vote for revenue,...
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he is there to explain the deal he and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell brokered and that the senate approved. >>> the white house is keeping a close eye on today's developments in the house. stay with msnbc for more updates. and now back to hardball. >>> two steps forward, one step backward. let's play "hard ball." >> let me start this last night of the year with this, two steps forward, one step forward, that's the year if you look at it. so many good decisions as a society. we saw the angry faces of reaction to demographic change in the beginning. the people bringing guns to political events. the faces of hatred in the birther mularkey. the dog whistling whether it was about the president or his surrogate, susan rice. guess what? none of it worked. it just didn't. who would have known how powerfully americans, america itself could not just reject but repel this nasty appeal. it didn't work. then we had the horror in newtown, connecticut. even animals cannot kill 20 victims in ten minutes, for that it takes state of the art fi firepower. david, i want to start with your year, when
he is there to explain the deal he and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell brokered and that the senate approved. >>> the white house is keeping a close eye on today's developments in the house. stay with msnbc for more updates. and now back to hardball. >>> two steps forward, one step backward. let's play "hard ball." >> let me start this last night of the year with this, two steps forward, one step forward, that's the year if you look at it. so many good...
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mitch mcconnell, all of them. you know, would you say your interest is to not let him be president for a second term, that means you have to go against everything so he would not be significant, like you are trying to tear him down. you are tearing everybody down. this is my thought. how is it that we the american people allow our senators and representatives to go against our better good? nothing they have done has been for the american people. it is not so hard to see that everything they have done has been to hurt not just the middle class, the poor. people on social security. everything the talk about is hurting other people. is it those that have the most that want to keep the most and make the ones that have the least pay for all the most the want to have? we have to wake up and get out and vote. this is not -- if we had got out and vote in 2010, this will not be happening. host: a couple more items from a facebook this morning. back to the telephones. david in fairfax station, virginia is on the line for re
mitch mcconnell, all of them. you know, would you say your interest is to not let him be president for a second term, that means you have to go against everything so he would not be significant, like you are trying to tear him down. you are tearing everybody down. this is my thought. how is it that we the american people allow our senators and representatives to go against our better good? nothing they have done has been for the american people. it is not so hard to see that everything they...
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mcconnell. and those contacts continued today. by early this afternoon amid reports of progress, president obama emerged in a campaign style setting. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> it was widely reported that the deal would include making the bush era tax cuts permanent for families with incomes under $450,000 a year. for households making more than that amount, rates would rise from the current 35% to 39.6%. the agreement would also raise the estate tax. in addition, unemployment benefits would be extended for one year. otherwise some 2 million americans face the end of their benefits beginning in january. on the senate floor shortly before midafternoon, minority leader mcconnll confirmed that the stalemate on taxes appeared to be over. >> i can report that we've reached an agreement on all of the tax, th
mcconnell. and those contacts continued today. by early this afternoon amid reports of progress, president obama emerged in a campaign style setting. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> it was widely reported that the deal would include making the bush era tax cuts permanent for families with...
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also, mitch mcconnell, the minority leader, the president, and harry reid. everyone will be in play, and we will cover that for you. finally, good news for all you hot heads out there. in the study reveals that being hot tempers and expressing anger is good for you. it can add up to two years to your life span. after analyzing six dozen people, researchers from entering university conclude that overtime self restraint and holding back-oceans could cause you to develop serious health publications, high blood pressure, heart disease, kidney damage, and even cancer. bottom line, for the death your health express yourself. if you're angry, let it all out. don't hold the pack. expressing your emotions could be just the key to that enjoyed a long and healthy life. that's my "2 cents more." thanks for joining is. don't forget to record the show if you cannot catch us live. have a great night and will see you tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening. the pounding, deafening drumbeat for gun control is rising. emanating principally from washington, the present, and members of
also, mitch mcconnell, the minority leader, the president, and harry reid. everyone will be in play, and we will cover that for you. finally, good news for all you hot heads out there. in the study reveals that being hot tempers and expressing anger is good for you. it can add up to two years to your life span. after analyzing six dozen people, researchers from entering university conclude that overtime self restraint and holding back-oceans could cause you to develop serious health...
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mcconnell. and those contacts continued today. by early this afternoon amid reports of progress, president obama emerged in a campaign style setting. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> it was widely reported that the deal would include making the bush era tax cuts permanent for families with incomes under $450,000 a year. for households making more than that amount rates would rise from the current 35% to 39.6%. the agreement would also raise the estate tax. in addition unemployment benefits would be extended for one year. otherwise some 2 million americans face the end of their benefits beginning in january. on the senate floor shortly before midafternoon minority leader mcconnell confirmed that the stalemate on taxes appeared to be over. >> i can report that we've reached an agreement on all of the tax the t
mcconnell. and those contacts continued today. by early this afternoon amid reports of progress, president obama emerged in a campaign style setting. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's to the done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> it was widely reported that the deal would include making the bush era tax cuts permanent for families with...
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republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it to the house floor for a vote before new year'
republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called...
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mitch mcconnell asked him to help out after talks stalled. with hours to go it's hard to tell if lawmakers will be able to agree to a watered down deal. lawmakers left the capital sunday night without a deal in place. but leaders from both parties expressed their willingness to continue working. >> there's still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. >> he want everyone to know i'm willing to get it done but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: some progress was made sunday when republicans dropped a proposal to slow social security growth but the main sticking point between democrats and republicans continues to be over the threshold of tax increases. president obama campaigned on raising taxes on income over $250,000. while many congressional republicans have pushed back against any tax increases. president obama is placing the blame for the impasse on the gop. >> they say that their biggest priority is making sure that we deal with the deficit in a serious way but the way they're behaving is that their only
mitch mcconnell asked him to help out after talks stalled. with hours to go it's hard to tell if lawmakers will be able to agree to a watered down deal. lawmakers left the capital sunday night without a deal in place. but leaders from both parties expressed their willingness to continue working. >> there's still significant difference between the two sides but negotiations continue. >> he want everyone to know i'm willing to get it done but i need a dance partner. >> reporter:...
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the hope for any deal before january 1st is that somehow minority leader mitch mcconnell could convince his troops, convince the republicans not to block it with a filibuster. each individual senator makes up their own mind, each senator has the right to stage a filibuster. so that's not something he can control entirely. a bigger issue, though, i have to edadmit, when you look at senator mcconnell and why he's so important right now is that he needs to bring some republicans on board this deal for a couple reasons. first, they need those republican votes to get anything through the senate. and then second of all, speaker boehner needs some cover, he needs some way to convince republicans in the house that they should pass this deal. conservatives are putting pressure on all sides and republicans in the house want to be to say conservativings in the senate supported this. i can too for the good of the country even though i don't like it. these are the dynamics in play. a lot of politics, a lot at stake. and this is why all focus is on senator mcconnell because he can bring so much to th
the hope for any deal before january 1st is that somehow minority leader mitch mcconnell could convince his troops, convince the republicans not to block it with a filibuster. each individual senator makes up their own mind, each senator has the right to stage a filibuster. so that's not something he can control entirely. a bigger issue, though, i have to edadmit, when you look at senator mcconnell and why he's so important right now is that he needs to bring some republicans on board this deal...
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we talked briefly about this earlier, but mitch mcconnell has a senate election in 2014. and if there's been one thing that's been noted over the past year, it's these crazy senate challengers have the chance of knocking off a person in the primary. and i'm assuming that mitch mcconnell knows that. >> this is great. this is great. we love this. tension at the convention of both ends of pennsylvania avenue, the white house, congress. this is terrific stuff. kurt, stay with us, okay? can you. we're begging you, begging you. >> you're adding gravitas to this. >>> we'll also bring in nbc news political director, chuck todd, also nbc white house correspo corresponde correspondent. >>> first, dylan dreyer with the forecast. >> we are going to see a good amount of snow across northern new england today. another one to two feet of snow possible. because of that, we do have winter storm warnings once again in effect. and this storm is just continuing to wreak havoc on the airports. that's the problem with the holiday travelers all taking up the flights that were all canceled yeste
we talked briefly about this earlier, but mitch mcconnell has a senate election in 2014. and if there's been one thing that's been noted over the past year, it's these crazy senate challengers have the chance of knocking off a person in the primary. and i'm assuming that mitch mcconnell knows that. >> this is great. this is great. we love this. tension at the convention of both ends of pennsylvania avenue, the white house, congress. this is terrific stuff. kurt, stay with us, okay? can...
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there was a report that maybe these talks between mitch mcconnell and vice-president biden were making some progress. on that, up went the futures market to show a gain of 80 points for the dow. we're back to showing a gain of 50 or 70 points. watch for head lines, for leaks, for any sound bites that might appear on any news program anywhere and you will have some kind of market reaction. as we countdown to the end of this fiscal cliff, i'm going to call it a debacle because that's exactly what it is. even if we get a very, very narrow deal, whoop-de-doo, we have a debt ceiling problem and amt taxes, government spending, all of those problems outstanding, nothing done. the dow jones industrial average is not done up for the opening bell, it's down, we're 42 points, 48 points going down as of right now. 50 points lower. what did you give, what did you get for christmas this year? chances are, a computer tablet maybe? according to the latest data from cnet, there were 17.4 million tablet activations on christmas day alone, more than double than last year. look at the two leading tablet m
there was a report that maybe these talks between mitch mcconnell and vice-president biden were making some progress. on that, up went the futures market to show a gain of 80 points for the dow. we're back to showing a gain of 50 or 70 points. watch for head lines, for leaks, for any sound bites that might appear on any news program anywhere and you will have some kind of market reaction. as we countdown to the end of this fiscal cliff, i'm going to call it a debacle because that's exactly what...
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minority leader mitch mcconnell to assure that no republicans block the bill. for house speaker john boehner to agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor. and leader nancy pelosi to produce the huge number of democrats needed to pass it. if that plan falls through -- >> i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> so what are the chances that will happen? lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. lisa, what is happening right now to reach a deal? who right now is involved in the negotiations? >> reporter: you know, this fiscal cliff that affects pretty much every american is now down to just a handful of people here at the capitol trying to work out a deal. at the top of the list are senators mcconnell and reid that you heard about in jessica's story. but also very important today will be their top staffers. their chiefs of staff. our producer, ted barrett, reports that the chiefs of staff will be working with each other trying to hammer out a deal, then talking to their bosses, the senators. then we'll find out
minority leader mitch mcconnell to assure that no republicans block the bill. for house speaker john boehner to agree to bring it to a vote on the house floor. and leader nancy pelosi to produce the huge number of democrats needed to pass it. if that plan falls through -- >> i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an up or down vote. >> so what are the chances that will happen? lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. lisa, what is happening right now to...
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mcconnell's office to see if vice president biden is swinging by today and one of the ways that the two sides may be having a form of a conversation today given the fact that we believe absent the calls, the president put out to the leaders, the house and the senate, that there's been no more conversations absent those between senior staff today. >> viqueira, a little birdie around the building said there's a pool that some people are in betting on when this thing will be wrapped up. and i heard you have january 10th. i would like to know your thoughts on why you picked january 10th. i would like to know what is the outlier date in this pool and if you have any intel on who else is in the pool. >> reporter: well, i mean, i'm sure i take no satisfaction in being right in this. there's a lot at stake here and certainly we look at gambling on legislation so there's money wagered. having said that, toure, i mean, you know, there's just too many ways to lose votes in this thing and not enough to gain votes in this thing and given the dynamic, the bedrock dynamic of the house of represent
mcconnell's office to see if vice president biden is swinging by today and one of the ways that the two sides may be having a form of a conversation today given the fact that we believe absent the calls, the president put out to the leaders, the house and the senate, that there's been no more conversations absent those between senior staff today. >> viqueira, a little birdie around the building said there's a pool that some people are in betting on when this thing will be wrapped up. and...
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mitch mcconnell, who will be attending a white house meeting told us a few moments ago that we are always the running out of time. chairman max baucus, the democrat says that he thinks this will fiscal cliff matter comes down as one white house meeting two hours from now. another top senate republican said a short time ago that he was calling on president obama to lead. >> the president is not a senator anymore. he's a president. just as president reagan worked to deal with tip o'neill and bill clinton and president eisenhower, we need leadership on not just taxing rich people, but we contact them and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. greg: others are skeptical, noting that high-profile meetings are for show often times and all about tactics. we expect the president will try a stopgap measure extending middle-class tax rates, extending unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans, do some small spending cuts now, but not entitlement reform. an ally of the white house and the house of representatives offered this. >> this is not for show. it is a last-ditch effort by the pr
mitch mcconnell, who will be attending a white house meeting told us a few moments ago that we are always the running out of time. chairman max baucus, the democrat says that he thinks this will fiscal cliff matter comes down as one white house meeting two hours from now. another top senate republican said a short time ago that he was calling on president obama to lead. >> the president is not a senator anymore. he's a president. just as president reagan worked to deal with tip o'neill...
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direct talks right now are between senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. biden is known for contacts in the senate and is called the senate whisperer, known as getting things through the senate when nobody else can. those are the two men in contact tonight trying to forge a deal. here's point number two, there was one battle today that democrats won, it was over something called the change cpa. it's basically a different way of calculating the cost of living. republicans wanted to use it in this deal, democrats did not. democrats stared down republicans and in the end, republican senators said we won't bring that up right now. that happened today. and point three, don, what's next? i'm afraid we won't know until tomorrow morning. that's when we think the earliest could be for us to get details how these talks between senator mcconnell and vice president biden are going. there you go, three points where we are tonight. >> thank you very much. we'll get back to you. if you get anything new, let us know. >>> i want to bring in now dr. keith back, he's a doct
direct talks right now are between senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. biden is known for contacts in the senate and is called the senate whisperer, known as getting things through the senate when nobody else can. those are the two men in contact tonight trying to forge a deal. here's point number two, there was one battle today that democrats won, it was over something called the change cpa. it's basically a different way of calculating the cost of living....
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mitch mcconnell, who is really now at the heart of make something sort of deal today about how far he can take republicans, he says the president called him last week. it was the first time he's talked to the president since november 16. why is-- is there something the president is responsible for that he's not reached out enough to republicans and established that kind of trust that there has been lacking? >> look, i would have liked to have seen the president do more reaching out during the entirety of his first term. keep in mind, the president has been negotiating with john boehner, and that was the agreed upon format. he's been in conserves with him, and when push comes to shove, boehner cannot get these deals done in his caucus. the big change is not in the white house. it's in the culture of congress. it has become increasingly partisan. increasingly polarized districts in the aftermath of redistricting. we have seen that over the decades but particularly the last decade. you have seen a real hardening on both sides. and they're not willing to meet the president on any of this.
mitch mcconnell, who is really now at the heart of make something sort of deal today about how far he can take republicans, he says the president called him last week. it was the first time he's talked to the president since november 16. why is-- is there something the president is responsible for that he's not reached out enough to republicans and established that kind of trust that there has been lacking? >> look, i would have liked to have seen the president do more reaching out during...
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it is not clear whether mitch mcconnell wants to play a role because he has a campaign coming in 2014. for some people on the far right, the idea that mitch mcconnell would make a deal with obama could be acceptable. you have 10 or more republican senators who say they are willing to do business with president obama in terms of approving an increase in the marginal tax rates. if that is the case, if you could get them to pass some kind of bill and then send it on to the house, and all boehner said was i will allow a vote, and you have democrats and some republicans feeling pressure joining in, you could get a bill done. host: rick is from massachusetts on our independent line. caller: good morning. i have a problem with the president. he is the most divisive individual who has come to power in this country for a long time. he completely denied his white relatives and blames all the problems on white men by buying the votes of the lower earners in this country by saying it is not your fault. he promised to bring this country to gather. what happened? guest: i am surprised. upper income
it is not clear whether mitch mcconnell wants to play a role because he has a campaign coming in 2014. for some people on the far right, the idea that mitch mcconnell would make a deal with obama could be acceptable. you have 10 or more republican senators who say they are willing to do business with president obama in terms of approving an increase in the marginal tax rates. if that is the case, if you could get them to pass some kind of bill and then send it on to the house, and all boehner...
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want to get a debt ceiling increase, both speaker boehner and the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell have made it clear, you want $1 trillion of more debt ceiling, because that's what the president is running, $1 trillion more debts, you have to cut it at the same time. they won it a year ago. they'll win it in the future. this is a long fight. it's four years of a fight. it's not one week of a fight. to your earlier question, does the president want to take us over the cliff? i think now he does. the reason is he needs an excuse for the next four years of failure. blaming it on bush doesn't work very much. the regulations and spending he's put on the economy for the next four years is going to put us in recession regardless of the fiscal cliff. >> to be fair, i'm told there are a number of republicans, especially in the house, who want to go over the cliff for the reason i explained, that they'd much rather vote for a tax cut than a tax increase because they don't want to break your pledge. grover, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> no one should break their pledge. >>
want to get a debt ceiling increase, both speaker boehner and the republican leader in the senate, mitch mcconnell have made it clear, you want $1 trillion of more debt ceiling, because that's what the president is running, $1 trillion more debts, you have to cut it at the same time. they won it a year ago. they'll win it in the future. this is a long fight. it's four years of a fight. it's not one week of a fight. to your earlier question, does the president want to take us over the cliff? i...
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. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in hawaii now, he'd be in washington making sure that we had a deal -- gregg: has boehner done his job? >> boehner has done a great job in t
. >> well, and that's why, and that's why the president ask speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell and harry reid need to come back and make sure their membership -- boehner couldn't deliver the other day -- make sure the membership, and by the way, boehner may have to go with democrats plus a minority of republicans to get the job done. gregg: yeah. >> this is about the welfare of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one...
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i think a lot of it depends on mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader, if he decides to allow a bill to move forward on the floor. >> is there anything going on behind the scenes that we don't know about? >> there is. the president's playing golf in hawaii. there's nothing going on behind the scenes. >> there's not some -- >> meetings going on in the white house, there's not staff -- >> lining up a putt? >> no, which is difficult, because there's lots of other stuff that has to go into what the president talks about before he left on friday, which is the tax rates. he didn't talk about payroll tax cut, amt, a number of things. there's a lot that has to go into a final deal and how they get that done. >> my worry is we're not talking about early january, we're talking about late january. >> i think it's probably more mid january if we go over. because i think you'll see market reaction, and you'll see a lot of people freak out, and it's a problem. >> market reaction, would you think -- >> people still think it's, you know, we get a deal. last-minute deal. i tend to be an optimist
i think a lot of it depends on mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader, if he decides to allow a bill to move forward on the floor. >> is there anything going on behind the scenes that we don't know about? >> there is. the president's playing golf in hawaii. there's nothing going on behind the scenes. >> there's not some -- >> meetings going on in the white house, there's not staff -- >> lining up a putt? >> no, which is difficult, because there's lots of...